Original von garryendson
Hallo bin Jeder ich Garry von China. Traurig ich ziehe nicht spricht Deutsch an und so ich benutze die Online-Übersetzung.
Trachycarpus princeps-Green (Nova) vor Jahren, vieler imitiert T. princeps Samen wurden verkauft um die Welt und sie haben sich als T erwiesen. princeps-Grün mit keinem weißen Pulver zur Unterseite der Blätter. ( ) Der Sämling wächst schneller als regelmäßig T. fortunei und hat breiteren und längeren leafblades. Es ist wahrscheinlich die schnellste wachsende trachycarpus Vielfalt. Das größte im Lebensraum ist 4-5 Meter mit einem etwas dünneren Übertragungsweg des 15-20cm in Durchmesser. Die Sämlinge gespaltene Merkblätter innerhalb 1.5 Jahr und entwickelt haarigen Übertragungsweg früher als T. fortunei. Die Blätter sind 80-100cm darüber, aufrecht als die des T. fortunei und petiols handeln von 1-1.2m lang. Ich denke persönlich, dass sie elegant mit großen Blättern auf Bit des dünneren Übertragungswegs anschauen. Betrachten der kalte Mut, zeigen keine entscheidenden Aufzeichnungen, wenn sie mehr oder weniger kräftig sind, als T. fortunei. Da es auch vom Steintorgebiet ist, wie T. princeps, T. princeps-Grün den gleichen Mut als T haben darf. princeps.
Vielleicht etwas von Ihnen Burschen wächst sie und erzählt, wie Kälte kräftig es ist.

Siehe T.princeps-green(Nova) wächst in den Lebensraum

Original von sid30

Original von Volker
Hallo Andy.

Nicht nur das, Garry verkauft auch Samen und Pflanzen direkt aus China.

coldplant.com

Volker

Hi,
hab grad die Website besucht, kann aber keinerlei Preise finden.
Gruß
Marcus

Sorry I don't speak German and was told the online translation from English to German is terrible and not precise.
So I put it in English .Regarding the cold hardiness and growth feature, it is interesting to exchange the different experiences with other people from a different country who grow them .
I also notice that some people are growing T.princeps with small leaves like some of my friends from Euope told me their T.princeps was like that and it should be a good chance to compare and talk about this directly here.
T.princeps -green (Nova) is not new to all ,but very few people see how they look like growing in the habitat and are curious about how their T.princeps-green will look like when big.
Trachycarpus princeps-Green (Nova) were sold around the world years ago and are still be sold as fake T.princeps as far as I know .But many growing results show that they areT.princeps-green with no or very little white powder on the underside of the leaves.The seedling grows faster than T. fortunei regularly and has wider and longer leafblades.It is probably the fastest growing Trachycarpus diversity. The seedlings stand more erect and have fewer, narrower and evenly divided leaflets as opposed to wider and irregular leaflets in T.fortunei seedlings with leaves spreading around.
The similarity they share with T.princeps is that the split leaflets are narrower forming about 30 degrees angle when they start to have split leaves whereas T.fortunei develop much wider leaves of 180 degree across.
I personally think that they do look elegant as the adult palm with larger leaves on a somewhat thinner trunk are more tropical and exotic looking.
The largest palm in the habitat I saw is 4-5 meters with a slightly thinner trunk of 15-20cm in diameter.The seedlings divide leaflets within 1.5 year and develop hair earlier than T. fortunei.The leaves are about 80-100cm, bit of erecter than that of T. fortunei and petiole length range 1-1.2m.

Regarding the cold hardiness, no conclusive records show if they are more or less cold hardy than T.fortunei and no big palms are available to test except those from the source area. Some say they are less hardy
and more growing experiences are needed to tell how exactly hardy they are if so.
I am not sure how the German growers of T.princep -green (Nova) will say about it and glad to hear the different experiences from people from a different place.

a comparison is made between T.princeps and T.princeps-green


T.princeps-green with 4 ridges in leaf as opposed to 2 ridges of T.princeps

narrow and erect leaves in T.princeps-green of 1.5 years old

narrow newly split leaves in T.princeps of 1.5 years old

Original von Ammerländer
Moin Moin!

Habe gerade eine Beschwerde von garryendson bekommen.
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Hallo Ammerländer,

garryendson beschwehrt sich über diesen Beitrag von garryendson:
exotenfans.de/thread.php?postid=83297#post83297

Grund:
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Ich denke da ist ein Fehler unterlaufen. Ich kann keinen Grund finden und einen Anlass für die Beschwerde sehe ich auch nicht.

Hi Ammerländer and Birgitt.
, I do not understand what you mean, I did not complain about anything here, but one thing I feel uncomfortable with is that I did not know German and made a mistake by repeating the response.
I am a palm enthusiast first of all , when I posted here as a foreigner, it made people think I am trying to push them to buy something.This is not right.
Because trachycarpus is quite common in China and people dont have much interest in talking about them as they feel they are quite common like the air they breathe.I also exchanged these different experiences with other people from USA, Netherlands, ,Spain , France and UK,etc.I think it is very fun talking with people who share the same interests as me.
But German and other Europeans seem to be more interested in these palms.It is interesting to exchange the different growing experiences .

I wish I could be treated like a normal member rather than a seller because I also got many other friends from Germany and other parts of the world who trade or buy seeds from me and I buy seeds from them. Plus, our focus is for wholesale of plants in China or abroad, not retail. So you guys please don't get me wrong.
Many thanks for your understanding. I am glad to hear your growing experiences .

Hallo Ammerländer und Birgitt.
, Ich verstehe nicht was du meinst, habe ich nicht über alles beschweren sich hier, aber eine Sache fühle ich mich unwohl, ist, dass ich nicht wusste, Deutsch und machte einen Fehler, indem Sie die Antwort.
Ich bin ein Palm-Enthusiasten vor allem, wenn ich hier gepostet, wie ein Fremder, er machte die Leute denken, ich versuche, schieben Sie sie auf something.This zu kaufen, ist nicht richtig.
Da Trachycarpus ist weit verbreitet und die Menschen in China derzeit viel Interesse an darüber zu reden, wie sie sie sind recht häufig, wie die Luft, die sie breathe.I tauschten auch die unterschiedlichen Erfahrungen mit anderen Menschen aus den USA, Niederlande, Spanien, Frankreich und Großbritannien fühlen , etc.I denke, es ist sehr lustig im Gespräch mit Menschen, die die gleichen Interessen wie mir zu teilen.
Aber die deutsche und andere Europäer scheinen mehr Interesse in diesen palms.It ist interessant, die verschiedenen wachsenden Erfahrungen austauschen.

Ich wünschte, ich könnte wie ein normales Mitglied und nicht als Verkäufer behandelt werden, da bekam ich auch viele andere Freunde aus Deutschland und anderen Teilen der Welt, die Handels-oder Samen kaufen von mir, und ich kaufe Samen von ihnen. Plus, unser Fokus ist für den Großhandel von Pflanzen in China oder im Ausland, nicht im Einzelhandel. So you guys bitte verstehen Sie mich nicht falsch.
Vielen Dank für Ihr Verständnis. Ich freue mich auf Ihre wachsenden Erfahrungen zu hören.

Original von Ammerländer
Moin Moin!

Kein Problem. Einfach weiter Fragen stellen oder etwas von sich hier veröffentlichen.

Nur bitte keine Verkaufsabsichten posten, da Wir dieses nicht von Gewerblichenhändlern möchten.

Hallo Ammerländer,
Vielen Dank für die mir zu sagen, und ich weiß es nicht als Neuling. Ich nahm den Preis Link, den Sie sprachen about.Sorry dafür. I really appreciate your diesen Hinweis.

Original von Frank HL
Hello Garry,

i have from Peter a few seeds of trachycarpus tesan, the seedlings are not bad. ;smilie[123]

<img src="http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5790/p6170676jpg1.jpg" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>

You have pictures of a large Trachycarpus "tesan" that you could show us?

Hi Frank,
Are you referring to Peter Wisbar?
I am not sure if you compared T.fortunei cv Tesan seeds with normal T.fortunei seeds.If you did, you will find a big difference between them. Tesan seeds are much larger than the latter , like blue berries as some people say ( see palmsociety.org.uk/forum/topic…ow=31&page=0&topicid=1320)
The following are some photos about them.



T.fortunei cv Tesan seeds

T.fortunei cv Tesan seedling


T.fortunei cv Tesan palm from a friend in Uzebekistan


T.fortunei cv Tesan palm in China

Original von Frank HL
Hi Garry,

many thanks for the upload.

Yes, the seeds are from you ... Peter knows me and my "fetish" ;smilie[127] to cultivate Trachycarpus.

Whence the origin of the princeps seeds you sent him?

Frank,
Yes, I heard something about you .
T.princeps seeds are what I collected from the stone gate area together with T.princeps-green(Nova).
Did you get both two from him and how did they go?

Original von Frank HL
Hi Garry,

1 Seedling is now made up about 2 leaves, the other seeds are not germinated. The seedling is identical to those of Ruud from Golden Lotus

What is the germination rate with you in the first 9 months?

My T.princeps from the same batch of seeds are producing its 4- 5th leaf.
I can promise you that the T.princeps Peter got from me is 100% real T.princeps which I collected by myself ,not through many agents or persons .I found that there were many fake seeds sold by dishonest people to the outside world from the stone gate area nowadays.That is why many T.princeps-green were sold as T.princeps before and it happens more often than before now.
There are some other German growers you can find who got the same batch seeds like you in this forum and it is fun exchanging the growing experiences. I like that as well.
it is easy to tell from T.princeps from other T.fortunei .
T.princeps have 2 leaf ridges as opposed to 4 in T.fortunei.
You can see my big T.princeps of 1.5-2 year old in the above link and they are putting on beautiful white stuff.
Regarding the germination rate, there is a big difference among different people. I got around 30% this year,but some more are germinating at this time.
But Peter got very good germination and said in his email to me on March 18th that
'Hi Garry,
about 80% of the tesan and princeps have germinated. Winsan are still in the germinating boxr'

Regarding the germination temperature, some say they need higher temperature to germinate than other trachycarpus ,my earlier experiment last year did prove this was not wrong, but since this September, I soaked the ungerminated seeds again and put some seeds under room temperature of 15-25C and some in the incubator under 20-38C.It seems that the one under room temperature have better and faster germination than the other.

T.princeps green seeds bigger than T.princeps seeds are much easier to sprout whereas T.princeps is the hardest one and its germination can take 6 month up to over 3 years.
I think the main reason is that T.princep seeds have a dormancy period and they are not physiologically mature ,though ripe in look with dark skin when we collected in late November .
But Dirk seems to have good hand on these seeds as I was told .You may ask both Peter and Dirk for the magical method.



The seedling from the same batach of seeds this year.

More are germinating in the bag after I soaked the ungerminated seeds again On Sep,29th .

Original von Frank HL
The magical method would be 90% in 4 weeks...;smilie[155]

15-20% germination rate (healthy seedlings) until now for me this year could be worse.
Some will germinate next year yet determined, at least I hope so.
Fresh new seeds are on the road ;smilie[123] , new game new happiness. ;smilie[127]

On the screen with the 4 to 5 leaves look very "tender", which are all like that?

Maybe Peter has magical hands.
I used to grow the seedlings together untill they are bigger and I have just transplanted in this new big pot last month.So the seedling growing in the bigger pot will be much stronger than anyone of many seedlings growing together.It may be growing stronger and faster next year.

Can I you show me your T.princeps?